Was watching one of Roach's videos I hadn't seen before:
...and he mentions in the UK, off-road tracks aren't open on non-race days, during races there are no practice sessions, and there's no divisions in each class.
So, if I understand him right, Brits don't get to practice, and everyone from first time racers to seasoned professionals race with no motor limits.
This sounds... incorrect... no?
I get Pop-Ups are big in England and that precludes the ability to practice. But specifically to permanent tracks... no stock, no mod, no beginner, no advanced, track is off-limits until qualifying... really??
Racing On The "Other" Side Of The Pond
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Re: Racing On The "Other" Side Of The Pond
Firstly practice, that depends on the track and yes, a lot of tracks are temporary. If you wanted to practice at the club I raced at last weekend outside of race days you would find a drivers stand in an empty field as all the track markers are put away at the end of the day. We went straight into racing, didn't even have time for a practice round beforehand as the less running on it helps the grass surface last longer.
Of the 'permanent' tracks, for a lot of them if you are a club member you can practice any time you want. The clubs near me include one in a sports facility and club membership gives you the access code to the drivers stand, although the temporary track markers are often removed as it is in a public area so you just have an astroturf rectangle. Another club is in a public park, members can practice on it any time but you will have to drag your equipment about 500 yards from the public car park nearby as the access gates are locked outside of race meetings. Another you cannot access outside of race days and official practice days as it is in a farmers field and they don't want random people driving through their farm at any time or day. We have an indoor permanent track attached to a shop, this is usually closed outside of race meetings but can pay a hire fee to book for the day which includes lap timing as it isn't normally staffed, but you would need 15-20 drivers there to make it affordable between you. We have one permanent track you can access any time for a small fee.
On road outdoors often have a practice session the day before big races, but for most off road meetings you only have a practice round before the racing proper starts, so each driver has a 5 minute session for practice. The national championship will often have several practice rounds in heat order, but you still end up with 15-20 minutes practice time at most. It's made a bit simpler as for off road a lot of races have a spec rear tyre so you have the most important variable already sorted.
1/10th on road often runs with motor limits, but rather than what seems to be the american way of having 10 different classes running at one meeting generally everyone runs in one of two classes, for touring cars this usually means your options are 17.5T blinky or open modified. Vintage off road now has a 10.5T motor limit, this also used to be open but it was found running mid 80s cars with 7.5T motors made them a bit of a handful. I did used to run a 8.5T motor in my original Optima with a belt conversion.
For modern 1/10th buggy everyone runs in the open class, there are no spec classes for off road and it's been that way since the 1980s. If you think you can handle a 6.5T, which is a common motor choice for the fast guys, put one of them in your car. No limits to your ESC either, so add as much turbo and boost as you want. If that's too much power for you, run a 10.5T, 13.5T or 17.5T. You don't have to put in the fastest, most powerful motor you can find because the amount of grip we have limits how much power can go through the rear wheels. We don't have the super grippy, rollered smooth tracks you have in the States, and we race in all weather, so we have a lot less grip and you choose the most appropriate motor for the track. At the weekend it rained on and off all day, racing on wet grass meant I found in 2wd a 17.5T motor with lots of boost and turbo for the main straight would lap faster than a 10.5t motor.
Club meetings will often have a beginners heat, where all the novice drivers are put in until they get to grips with getting around the track, but it isn't listed as a separate class and they usually aren't limited on motors. Everyone gets to compare their results with everyone else at the track, not just the 9 other people running in your class.
Here's one of the A finals from the first round of our national championships to show you what top level racing is like over here
and this is a bunch of average racers at a local club meeting
Of the 'permanent' tracks, for a lot of them if you are a club member you can practice any time you want. The clubs near me include one in a sports facility and club membership gives you the access code to the drivers stand, although the temporary track markers are often removed as it is in a public area so you just have an astroturf rectangle. Another club is in a public park, members can practice on it any time but you will have to drag your equipment about 500 yards from the public car park nearby as the access gates are locked outside of race meetings. Another you cannot access outside of race days and official practice days as it is in a farmers field and they don't want random people driving through their farm at any time or day. We have an indoor permanent track attached to a shop, this is usually closed outside of race meetings but can pay a hire fee to book for the day which includes lap timing as it isn't normally staffed, but you would need 15-20 drivers there to make it affordable between you. We have one permanent track you can access any time for a small fee.
On road outdoors often have a practice session the day before big races, but for most off road meetings you only have a practice round before the racing proper starts, so each driver has a 5 minute session for practice. The national championship will often have several practice rounds in heat order, but you still end up with 15-20 minutes practice time at most. It's made a bit simpler as for off road a lot of races have a spec rear tyre so you have the most important variable already sorted.
1/10th on road often runs with motor limits, but rather than what seems to be the american way of having 10 different classes running at one meeting generally everyone runs in one of two classes, for touring cars this usually means your options are 17.5T blinky or open modified. Vintage off road now has a 10.5T motor limit, this also used to be open but it was found running mid 80s cars with 7.5T motors made them a bit of a handful. I did used to run a 8.5T motor in my original Optima with a belt conversion.
For modern 1/10th buggy everyone runs in the open class, there are no spec classes for off road and it's been that way since the 1980s. If you think you can handle a 6.5T, which is a common motor choice for the fast guys, put one of them in your car. No limits to your ESC either, so add as much turbo and boost as you want. If that's too much power for you, run a 10.5T, 13.5T or 17.5T. You don't have to put in the fastest, most powerful motor you can find because the amount of grip we have limits how much power can go through the rear wheels. We don't have the super grippy, rollered smooth tracks you have in the States, and we race in all weather, so we have a lot less grip and you choose the most appropriate motor for the track. At the weekend it rained on and off all day, racing on wet grass meant I found in 2wd a 17.5T motor with lots of boost and turbo for the main straight would lap faster than a 10.5t motor.
Club meetings will often have a beginners heat, where all the novice drivers are put in until they get to grips with getting around the track, but it isn't listed as a separate class and they usually aren't limited on motors. Everyone gets to compare their results with everyone else at the track, not just the 9 other people running in your class.
Here's one of the A finals from the first round of our national championships to show you what top level racing is like over here
and this is a bunch of average racers at a local club meeting
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