My 10T Questions Thread

[MONSTER]

So, I FINALLY got some White Arms for my 10T. The Black ones that are on it now, are, for lack of a better discription, "flat". The White ones I just recieved, have, again, for lack of a better discription, a "twist" at the outside End.

What is the significance of this? Are there "flat" White Arms? What Model/Year 10T will I have using these "twisted" Front Arms?

[Bugle]

You're talking about the funny shape of the front arms? All RC10T arms are like that, except at the end of production when they went to the (black) T2 type arms. The only flat white arms I know of are the RPM ones.

[MONSTER]

Thanks you much, Sir.

Another question for the Board:
On AE's website, there seem to be 3 different 10T Manuals. Im having a REALLY hard time downloading the first one, but I believe its for the Narrow Front Tire Truck. To save me the serious trouble of downloading them all, what is the true difference/s in the 3, so I may download the one I actually need?

[Bugle]

There's only one manual there, they just divided it into 3 parts for some reason

[MONSTER]

So, theres only ONE Version of the 10T? They made NO changes, except for going from Narrow Fronts, to Wide Fronts (Tires/Wheels)?

[Bugle]

There's 3 versions I think, 7001 original, 7011 sport, or 7035 team. Online manual looks like a 7001?

I've got a printed 7011 Sport truck manual and the only difference to the online is that it has the instructions for mounting a mechanical speed controller and doesn't have anything on the narrow front wheels. Got it from the AE ebay clearance, now they seem to have 7035 manuals which they didn't have before http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Associated-Inst-Manual-for-7035-RC10T-Team-Truck_W0QQitemZ360056299778QQihZ023QQcategoryZ616QQcmdZViewItem

They didn't really make any significant changes, just beefed up the arms/shock towers a bit and made a carbon transmission brace. Changed the chassis drilling slightly, first had the battery cup offset as you can see in the online manual. Maybe included universal driveshafts too at some stage on the team truck.

[MONSTER]

Ok, that Manual calls for the Steering Blocks that take the Hexagonal Shaft, but when I took the Truck apart, I found it had White Blocks that take a Round Shaft. I guess if the Manual calls for the Hexagonal ones, I'll use them, but what/where do the Round Shaft Blocks go to?

[scr8p]

just because the manual shows one thing doesn't mean it's correct for your car/truck. the difference are nothing more than changes during the production run. my 10t came with black a-arms, and all the other parts were white. but, none of the manuals show it like that, as far as i know.

[mrlexan]

Just with the development of the parts for a production run, manuals too take some time to pull together and complete (especially prior to the digital age which made the process more efficient) and typically never get updated as time goes on unless there is a major change requiring an addendum. Most companies don't want to incur costs with the updates..... why should they spend the money. My point, most of the manuals done in the early stages likely show pics of prototype parts, so Scr8p is correct, just cause it is in the manual doesn't mean it is correct for your truck.

[Bugle]

My sport truck which has all the later production thick arms, shock towers, un-countersunk 6 gear holes in the chassis has those round steering blocks and axles. Same ones as the T2 and B2 except they're black.

I remember assembling my T2 and T3 they'd chuck a little note in the bag with the updated parts if you had to do anything differently to what the manual said..

[MONSTER]

I went ahead with the Hexagonal Axles, since I had them and its what the Manual called for.

My sport truck which has all the later production thick arms, shock towers, un-countersunk 6 gear holes in the chassis has those round steering blocks and axles. Same ones as the T2 and B2 except they're black.

Since you mentioned this, I went back and checked all the parts I have. Between the 2 Trucks worth of parts, and extra parts Ive aquired, with the exception of the "thick arms", I have all these parts. In the building of my Runner, and not even knowing about the different parts (except black vs white), I have mixed them all up.

What parts should I be using to build the White Runner? I have Thick and Thin Shock Towers, Counter Sunk and Non-Counter Sunk Chassis'? I just want it to be as close to "Stock" as I can make it.

I almost positive I have everything to build a 10T in Black, except a Rear Bulkhead and Steering BellCranks. After i get the White Truck in "Proper" order, I will have no need for these Black Truck Parts.

If any of this Rambling makes sense, I would sure appreciate everyones help assembling my White Runner with the CORRECT Parts.

[templeofspeed]

The "round hole" steering blocks with the alloy axles started on the 7035 Team Truck.

[Bugle]

All those upgraded parts, thick shock towers, non countersunk chassis etc came on completely white trucks too, you can't really build one incorrectly.

[templeofspeed]

Heh.

Brief overview on the trucks:

7001- teflon shocks, bearings, dogbone axles, thin shock towers with two shock mounts per side front and rear, three piece wheels (narrow fronts). 15º caster blocks, steel inline axles, 1.5º rear arm mounts and 3º rear hub carriers. Three different 'B' chassis drillings have been seen on the 7001: 1st (super rare) type has 6-gear holes countersunk, offset countersunk front battery cup holes; 2nd type has c/s 6-gear holes, c/s centered front battery cup holes plus offset non-c/s holes; 3rd type has c/s 6 gear and only centered c/s battery cup holes. On that note the manual shows 'A' stampings on the chassis...

7011- gold shocks, bushings, MSC, three piece wheels, dogbone axles. Parts that eventually transitioned from 7001 type to 7035 type are the towers, front axles and caster blocks, front and rear arms. Supplied with 1.5º rear arm mounts and 3º rear hub carriers throughout production. As pointed out by Bugle the white front arms received additional material, although retained the single shock hole for a time. Transitioned to black composite arms, and finally T2 type arms (and front shock tower) when the change was made to all black parts. 3rd type 'B' chassis, a 4th and final 'B' chassis without countersinking for the 6-gear, and the 'C' chassis were used on the 7011. C chassis are drilled as the 3rd gen B, except the battery cup holes are 1/4" further forward.

7035- teflon shocks, bearings, universal joint axles, thick shock towers with additional holes, thicker front and rear arms, the front arms have additional shock mount hole, 3º rear arm mounts with 0º rear hub carriers, alloy front inline axles with 30º caster blocks, graphite trans brace, one piece wheels, 6130 body. The Team Truck type heavier arms were later made from black composite, but all the rest of the parts remained white until the changeover to T2 type arms, at which point all the plastic was black. 2nd (rare), 3rd, & 4th type 'B' chassis drillings only as far as I know.


Approximate production years:

7001 The first truck, not considered a Team Truck, but labeled as the Race Truck. Predated the 7011 and 7035 and was replaced by them. Produced 1991-1992. The only truck kit that came with narrow fronts in the box.

7011 The cheaper bushing truck. 1992-1995

7035 The Team Truck. 1992-1995

[MONSTER]

Now thats really thorough info. I was hoping you would chime in on this Temple. THANKS!!! Not that I dont appreciate everyone elses help also , I do, greatly.

Heh.

Brief overview on the trucks:

7001- teflon shocks, bearings, dogbone axles, thin shock towers with two shock mounts per side front and rear, three piece wheels (narrow fronts). 15º caster blocks, steel inline axles, 1.5º rear arm mounts and 3º rear hub carriers. Three different 'B' chassis drillings have been seen on the 7001: 1st (super rare) type has 6-gear holes countersunk, offset countersunk front battery cup holes; 2nd type has c/s 6-gear holes, c/s centered front battery cup holes plus offset non-c/s holes; 3rd type has c/s 6 gear and only centered c/s battery cup holes. On that note the manual shows 'A' stampings on the chassis...

WOW, I have that "super rare" chassis, in fair to good condition (a few nicks here and there)(worth anything?), but previous owner did drill it for centered battery cups , and no Narrow Wheels. Its the Truck I got a few months ago on eBay. It had Yellow RPM Arms all around, and everything else had been dyed yellow. Sold all the yellow stuff, and dont have much White Parts left to complete it. I DO have a GOOD BIT of Black Parts left over though, but have NO desire to start another build.

7011- gold shocks, bushings, MSC, three piece wheels, dogbone axles. Parts that eventually transitioned from 7001 type to 7035 type are the towers, front axles and caster blocks, front and rear arms. Supplied with 1.5º rear arm mounts and 3º rear hub carriers throughout production. As pointed out by Bugle the white front arms received additional material, although retained the single shock hole for a time. Transitioned to black composite arms, and finally T2 type arms (and front shock tower) when the change was made to all black parts. 3rd type 'B' chassis, a 4th and final 'B' chassis without countersinking for the 6-gear, and the 'C' chassis were used on the 7011. C chassis are drilled as the 3rd gen B, except the battery cup holes are 1/4" further forward.

I believe this is the truck I am currently building. Did the Gold Shocks have Black Caps? As I only have one Set of White Arms, I dont know if they are the Thick ones or Thin, but they do only have one Shock Mount Hole, but I believe you indicated it could have either (?). Chassis Six Gear Holes not C/S, "B" Stamped, and Batt Cup Holes 1/4 Forward, and Centered. And if I understand correctly, you say it could have come with the Thick Towers, and Round (alloy?) Front Axles?

7035- teflon shocks, bearings, universal joint axles, thick shock towers with additional holes, thicker front and rear arms, the front arms have additional shock mount hole, 3º rear arm mounts with 0º rear hub carriers, alloy front inline axles with 30º caster blocks, graphite trans brace, one piece wheels, 6130 body. The Team Truck type heavier arms were later made from black composite, but all the rest of the parts remained white until the changeover to T2 type arms, at which point all the plastic was black. 2nd (rare), 3rd, & 4th type 'B' chassis drillings only as far as I know.

I have the Graphite Trans Brace on Current Build. Correct, or no?

Approximate production years:

7001 The first truck, not considered a Team Truck, but labeled as the Race Truck. Predated the 7011 and 7035 and was replaced by them. Produced 1991-1992. The only truck kit that came with narrow fronts in the box.

7011 The cheaper bushing truck. 1992-1995

7035 The Team Truck. 1992-1995

I was eventually gonna ask for this info also. Temple, you are THE MAN!!