RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

[juicedcoupe]

For my fishing reels, I make my own mix of TSI 321, Corrosion X, and 99% IPA. It's mostly alcohol as a carrier fluid.

I flood the bearings in it and let the alcohol evaporate, leaving a thin film of TSI and Cor X.

99% IPA?? How many beers in before you forget there's a bearing sloshing around the bottom of your pale ale??

Glug...Glug...

Isopropyl alcohol, 99%.

I just use Iso-Heet, as it is 99%+ IPA, with a slight amount of ethelbenzene. Easy to find and works great.

[JosephS]

... We are running chinese $1 a pop bearings these days vs the $80 high end NMB bearings sets back in the day.

That's true and the difference is night and day.
I have some of those early metal shielded bearings and they're still smooth and spin forever.
By contrast, I've had to replace many of the modern cheap bearings from Avid - even those with rubber seals.
You get what you pay for.

I found that if you pull the rubber shields off they are good bearings underneath.

[juicedcoupe]

https://www.bocabearings.com/products/05-010c-ys-4689?make=TEAM%20ASSOCIATED&model=RC10

Just saying. And those probably aren't their top of the line bearings.

[XLR8]

... We are running chinese $1 a pop bearings these days vs the $80 high end NMB bearings sets back in the day.

That's true and the difference is night and day.
I have some of those early metal shielded bearings and they're still smooth and spin forever.
By contrast, I've had to replace many of the modern cheap bearings from Avid - even those with rubber seals.
You get what you pay for.

I found that if you pull the rubber shields off they are good bearings underneath.

Avid balls and races look good; they appear to be accurately machined with very smooth surface finish. However, it's been my experience that when used in a dusty application, they will fail so maybe the steel Avid is using is less hard than more costly bearings.
I'm not knocking Avid since they offer a budget friendly option. I know that when I use a set in my off-road RC's, I will be replacing them at some point.

[GreenBar0n]

Just need the 4-40 set screws to get the diff lock going, may have to order some. These are sealed bearings so they won't do a 15 second spin, $32 turned out to be the deciding factor on this .

I'll still do the rest of the guide steps, no hurry on this one though.

Still looking for the ESC, a Team Novak NESC-1.


Anything better in '85 than the NESC-1?

Will be pairing the ESC with a Trinity motor.

[radioactivity]

I like your choice of motor.
I kept 2 or 3 in my rotation of motors from mid 80's thru mid 90's.
I had better luck with the earlier 1985 version over the later version of the silver labeled 1987 Monster Horsepower stock motors.
Still have those motors today.


Chuck

[GreenBar0n]

I like your choice of motor.
I kept 2 or 3 in my rotation of motors from mid 80's thru mid 90's.
I had better luck with the earlier 1985 version over the later version of the silver labeled 1987 Monster Horsepower stock motors.
Still have those motors today.


Chuck

What's your favorite ESC, for the era of '85?

[radioactivity]

Though it was overkill for my cars and my ability, I ran the 1985 ESC-190 Pro (P) black sticker, golden letters, 6 + 2 FET.
Bought it as soon as I could afford it.

It was the only ESC I ran for probably 10 years and it still runs just like new.


Still in my Delta Spyder.

Chuck

[XLR8]

Though it was overkill for my cars and my ability, I ran the 1985 ESC-190 Pro (P) black sticker, golden letters, 6 + 2 FET.
Bought it as soon as I could afford it.


Tekin ESC190.JPG


It was the only ESC I ran for probably 10 years and it still runs just like new.


Still in my Delta Spyder.

delta5.JPG

Chuck

Oh my... Seeing that Spyder brings back so many memories. Tom Sagle, a fellow racer from bitd, raced Delta almost exclusively -- including their incredible 1/8 scale nitro road cars. He always brought the coolest cars to the track and was certain to qualify for A mains. I thought if I could beat Tom, I'd made it as a racer. It never happened.
Delta made some serious race cars.

[Frankentruck]

Hyperdrive in that Spyder?

[radioactivity]

Hyperdrive in that Spyder?

Yep
As quiet as a whisper in the wind.
Tried it on RC10 but it always wanted to skip teeth.


Chuck

[duckhead]

The newer editions of the gears are beige.

That was for the 2013 as well as the cc release.

Does anyone know if they are sturdier than the original gears?

Would also be curious to know the answer to this.

Just catching up on this thread...

The idler gears on both the 2013 and the 2024 40th car are glass fiber filled nylon (hence the darker color) and should be much more stronger and durable than the plain nylon idler gears of days gone by...

[GreenBar0n]

Though it was overkill for my cars and my ability, I ran the 1985 ESC-190 Pro (P) black sticker, golden letters, 6 + 2 FET.
Bought it as soon as I could afford it.


Tekin ESC190.JPG


It was the only ESC I ran for probably 10 years and it still runs just like new.


Still in my Delta Spyder.


Chuck

Thanks for the info on the Tekin, that looks like an excellent alternative to the NESC-1. Neither are inexpensive, but if they still work after all of this time, they're worth the current asking price.



1:12 on road looks like a lot of fun for racing. Really appreciate how clean yours is.

Is there a modern 1:12 car that you like these days? Would love to rebuild an old RC12L, or similar some day.

[1911Colt]

Is there a modern 1:12 car that you like these days?

Cue the obligatory Schumacher reference from me

There is the current 1/12 World Champion Schumacher Eclipse 5:

https://www.racing-cars.com/rc-models-2/cars/cars-2wd-4wd=2wd/eclipse-5-1-12th-circuit-kit-k203?returnurl=%2frc-models-2%2fcars%2fcars-2wd-4wd%3d2wd%2f

[JosephS]

https://www.bocabearings.com/products/05-010c-ys-4689?make=TEAM%20ASSOCIATED&model=RC10

Just saying. And those probably aren't their top of the line bearings.

Going back in time the bearings would have been slightly above average price

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I have been curious about that. Ball bearings used to be crazy expensive. I remember buying my boca bearing for $30 from them back on the day. Inflation adjusted a modern set of avid bearings would have been $8. Did something happen? Why did they get so cheap?