KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
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KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Hi there !
Here is an old project started on august 2014.
Some extra parts from MANOBET are installed for a better look and improvement.
The pics :
the beginning :
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Extra parts:
Pics with natural light
Six month to find this spring :
Some extra parts find on the net
Anti-rool-bar find and installation
Optional motor plate
Better condition rods
At this moment, i want to find :
- Belt drive superior protection
- original TOMS Front tires
- original TOMS rear tires
Please ... HELP
to be continued ....
Jerome
Here is an old project started on august 2014.
Some extra parts from MANOBET are installed for a better look and improvement.
The pics :
the beginning :
...
...
....
.........
............
Extra parts:
Pics with natural light
Six month to find this spring :
Some extra parts find on the net
Anti-rool-bar find and installation
Optional motor plate
Better condition rods
At this moment, i want to find :
- Belt drive superior protection
- original TOMS Front tires
- original TOMS rear tires
Please ... HELP
to be continued ....
Jerome
Sorry for my rusty english, i'm a kind of French farmer lost in his montain ...
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
To be continued ...
Jerome
Sorry for my rusty english, i'm a kind of French farmer lost in his montain ...
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
I like the design of the buggy, cool looking at the least. Continue on my friend!
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Very nice indeed.
The whole lwb vs. swb thing has me a bit confused. Was the original Optima Mid swb or lwb - or was an option? TBG has a body listed on ebay but it says "lwb". Will this body fit a first gen OM? Is there an easy way to determine if a car is swb or lwb - some particular rule-of-thumb dimension perhaps?
The whole lwb vs. swb thing has me a bit confused. Was the original Optima Mid swb or lwb - or was an option? TBG has a body listed on ebay but it says "lwb". Will this body fit a first gen OM? Is there an easy way to determine if a car is swb or lwb - some particular rule-of-thumb dimension perhaps?
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
This should answer your question with a simple timeline of Optima releases; basically, the LWB (long wheelbase) variant was released at the very end of the Optima development. The original Mids were all SWB (short wheelbase) chassis'. Everything after the Turbo Optima Mid SE was LWB. As you can see, the naming prefixes & suffixes got a bit clunky and confusing.XLR8 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:49 pm Very nice indeed.
The whole lwb vs. swb thing has me a bit confused. Was the original Optima Mid swb or lwb - or was an option? TBG has a body listed on ebay but it says "lwb". Will this body fit a first gen OM? Is there an easy way to determine if a car is swb or lwb - some particular rule-of-thumb dimension perhaps?
http://theoptimahouse.blogspot.ca/2006/12/genealogy-of-optima-series.html#!/2006/12/genealogy-of-optima-series.html
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Ah yes, you've done an awesome job explaining the differences. Thank you sir! Actually, I can see the extended wb cars in the diagram (appears to be a bit more gap in front of the rear tires).
Henceforth, I'll prefer to read "SWB" as standard wheelbase since it came first.
Thanks again for setting me straight.
By chance, do you know how much the wheelbase was extended and if there's a back story? Just curious.
Henceforth, I'll prefer to read "SWB" as standard wheelbase since it came first.
Thanks again for setting me straight.
By chance, do you know how much the wheelbase was extended and if there's a back story? Just curious.
Doug
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
You're welcome, but I can't take credit for that image, that goes to The Optima House blog, http://theoptimahouse.blogspot.ca. It's a good site for Optima fans.
My OptiMutt car is based on the SWB Turbo Optima Mid SE chassis, and I don't have one of the LWB Mids to compare with, or I'd measure it for you. I'm sure someone else here can share the details.
As for why they went with a long wheelbase, I'm guessing for racing, the biggest reason for increasing the chassis wheelbase was probably to make 7 battery cells fit in a better-performing arrangement...recall that the previous Mids and early Optimas were made for 6- and 7-cell stick packs that were installed sideways, perpendicular to the chassis length, which wasn't an optimal weight distribution.
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Thank you, more surprise soon
Thank you, i hope to enjoy a lot of poeple with that projectNomadRacer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:19 pm I like the design of the buggy, cool looking at the least. Continue on my friend!
Jerome
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
The wheel base was extended by approximately 2 cm if I remember right. The reason was to improve stability. As a drawback though the turning circle was a bit wider so they used more narrow front wheels to improve steering.
Schumacher also came up with a long-wheel-based cat.
Schumacher also came up with a long-wheel-based cat.
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Thank you Swosh.
I have the original Cat, the XL and the XLS and even with same springs, damping, tires, etc., handling overall is very different. The XLS is clearly the better handling car IMHO. The SWB Cat can be tricky especially on corner entry so it's probably best suited to a tight, twisty track.
I'm not able to determine this from any of the photos but If I wanted to upgrade a Mid to LWB, would I need longer chassis plates and belt or were the arms and/or their mounts simply altered somehow to achieve the longer wb?
I have the original Cat, the XL and the XLS and even with same springs, damping, tires, etc., handling overall is very different. The XLS is clearly the better handling car IMHO. The SWB Cat can be tricky especially on corner entry so it's probably best suited to a tight, twisty track.
I'm not able to determine this from any of the photos but If I wanted to upgrade a Mid to LWB, would I need longer chassis plates and belt or were the arms and/or their mounts simply altered somehow to achieve the longer wb?
Doug
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Re: KYOSHO Optima Mid LWB - "Manobet" inside
Some test mount :
To be continued ...
Jerome
To be continued ...
Jerome
Sorry for my rusty english, i'm a kind of French farmer lost in his montain ...
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