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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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wow! that looks great Mark! Nicely done!

Now im thinking I need to do some wheel halves with 12mm hex for the front haha
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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What are those awesome front tires?
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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Frankentruck wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:17 pm What are those awesome front tires?
They are pretty cool aren't they? I really wanted to keep narrow fronts and original style wheels for a stock looking appearance while doing the 4wd conversion.

They are printed tires from mciracing.ca and they are awesome. They're my first time handling or seeing 3D printed tires and to my surprise the rubber compound is nice and soft. The outside facing sidewall of the tire is nice and smooth, the inside wall does have some dimples from the printing process but it's really not that bad and could be sanded out.

mciracing also modified his original styled front wheels with a 12mm hex and printed those as well, they look great and have a nice finish.

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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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GoMachV wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:06 pm wow! that looks great Mark! Nicely done!

Now im thinking I need to do some wheel halves with 12mm hex for the front haha
Thanks Jeff. The Ten4.1 kit is really awesome, the fitment of everything you would think it come from AE like that.

Yes I think you should offer some OG style fronts with the 12mm hex. MCIracing.ca designed and printed these ones for me and they are excellent, they are one piece. He also prints the tires.
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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Put a few more kits up on the website last night, the next batch will be a week or two out. https://factoryworks.com/shop/ols/products/ten41conversion
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i may have missed it-- wondering about the front diff -- is it a spool or a ball-diff?
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another question is how much steering does this kit give? Is it equal to the 2WD steering throw?

Has anyone raced this kit? Is it mildly competitive to say a B44?
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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You really need to read up on our FAQ and parts list to get the full idea of what we did but it uses a stealth diff up front and will have, as with every 4wd, slightly less steering than a 2wd, but the same as a Kyosho optima or similar 4wd of the era.

As the maker of this conversion, I can say wholeheartedly no, it will not compete against a b44. It was never meant to. Its a rear motor converted 2wd buggy. It was meant to compete with the optima and radiants and other cars of the era. If you want a competitive 4wd that will run with cars designed 20 years newer this is not it.
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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GoMachV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:27 pm You really need to read up on our FAQ and parts list to get the full idea of what we did but it uses a stealth diff up front and will have, as with every 4wd, slightly less steering than a 2wd, but the same as a Kyosho optima or similar 4wd of the era.

As the maker of this conversion, I can say wholeheartedly no, it will not compete against a b44. It was never meant to. Its a rear motor converted 2wd buggy. It was meant to compete with the optima and radiants and other cars of the era. If you want a competitive 4wd that will run with cars designed 20 years newer this is not it.

I read most of it , I think -- obviously missed the part about the diff.

right on. just curious. I haven't yet seen anyone mention it's performance.

It is super cool and tempting!
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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Jeep-Power wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:59 pm
It is super cool and tempting!
Not trying to 'sell' you on this but I'd like to add to your quote that it's super cool and worth it.

My question on another forum about the rc10 4x4 conversion led me to this site and now have the chance to build one of Jeff's kits...finally.

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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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If you are on Facebook and part of the rc10talk group, there was a post showing a shakedown/first run on a modern track with a wall ride.

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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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GoMachV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:53 pm If you are on Facebook and part of the rc10talk group, there was a post showing a shakedown/first run on a modern track with a wall ride.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/jneLLc6b9bixuU5X/?mibextid=oFDknk
It actually looks pretty good out there. definitely slower in the corners than modern stuff but considering what it is it's pretty impressive.
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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The bellcranks can be trimmed down to make for extra steering angle. This may void the non-existent 4.1 warranty, but the cranks are made of ~5.3mm thick nylon, so some trimming isn't going to hurt anything IMO. I haven't broken out the angle finders or anything, but my FR01 Ten4.1 is in the ballpark of a standard RC10 in regards to steering angle at this point.
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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morrisey0 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:59 pm The bellcranks can be trimmed down to make for extra steering angle. This may void the non-existent 4.1 warranty, but the cranks are made of ~5.3mm thick nylon, so some trimming isn't going to hurt anything IMO. I haven't broken out the angle finders or anything, but my FR01 Ten4.1 is in the ballpark of a standard RC10 in regards to steering angle at this point.
I haven't gotten one of these yet, but my concern would be the the angles the CVs can handle
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Re: Factory Works Ten4.1 project

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RogueIV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 pm I haven't gotten one of these yet, but my concern would be the the angles the CVs can handle
My plan is that the CVs are the limit, not the kit. If I get it to the point of the CVs being the issue, then EPA fixes that. That part is easy. :D
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